Armada de Gran Bretaña

[Autentic]

Si, yo tambien diria que es un F14 Tomcat, alas retractiles, biplaza, etc.

Un saludo.

[urquhart]

Hola a todos,

Creo que Atlanta no comenta la foto posteada. Si os fijaís en la última foto de las postadas por Alí, vereís qua a proa del CVN, en la vertical de la proa del DDG británico hay un F-18 con un esquema de pintura decorativo.

Si clicaís en el enlace http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/ ... 35-852.jpg , y le dais a engrandecer, se observa mejor, justo en la vertical del SAM proel

Saludos.

[Urbano Calleja]

Pues por lo que veo, es un F-18 monoplaza con una librea amarilla / negra. Ademas lleva un camo pixelado de baja visibilidad en al cola... tiene un aire al que el Flag Plane de un mitico escuadron de F-14 llevaba. Salvando las distancia, claro

Creo que os referis al Jolly Rogers (VFA-103), pero la cominacion de colores seria la inversa (negro predominando sobre amarillo).

[ATLANTA]

Creo que me exprese mal, gracias Urquhart por la aclaración, el Tomcat que subí lo hice sólo como referencia, pero mí comentario iba por el Hornet abordo del CVN.

Y si, la combinación de colores no es identica pero se asimila, por eso mí duda.

saludos

ATLANTA

[Vanguardia]

Bows wow as giant future carrier section joins her sister in Rosyth

The bow of future carrier HMS Prince of Wales has joined that of her sister Queen Elizabeth on the Forth after a 900-mile barge journey.
The 400-tonne bulbous section was transported from Appledore in north Devon to Rosyth, where the biggest ships built in the Royal Navy’s history are being assembled.



The very bulbous section of the second of the Royal Navy’s two future carriers was delivered to Rosyth on the Firth of Forth, where the 65,000-tonne leviathans are being assembled.
Just under two years since the bow of Queen Elizabeth was completed at the Appledore yard in North Devon, the same segment for her younger sister was floated on a sea-going barge up the Torridge and Taw estuaries into the Bristol Channel, around Land’s End, along the South Coast, through the Dover Strait and up the East Coast, before passing under the iconic Forth road and rail bridges and into Rosyth.
At 400 tonnes, the bulbous bow weighs the equivalent of nearly 40 double-decker buses and is similar in size to the front of a submarine.
It arrived at the Babcock yard under what was described as a “typically gunmetal sky” – ie grey – and is now sitting next to the specially-enlarged Dock No.1 where the 900ft carriers are being assembled one at a time.
Half a dozen yards around the UK are involved in the carrier project, with some 10,000 people directly or indirectly involved in building sections, parts or providing equipment for what will be the largest ships ever built for Britain’s Navy.
Although there is intense media speculation about the outfitting of the two ships – whether they’ll be conventional carriers with ‘cats and traps’ or serve as launchpads for jump jet versions of the F35 Joint Strike Fighter – work on the vessels continues apace.



In Portsmouth, Queen Elizabeth has been ‘fired up’ for the first time. With all the switchboards wired, Lower Block 02 was switched on – the first time power has been applied to any part of the ship.
The work was due to be carried out in Rosyth, but with things going faster than expected, the decision was taken to power up six months ahead of schedule.
The team at the BAE Systems facility are now preparing that section, and another giant slice of Queen Elizabeth – Lower Block 05 – for transportation to Scotland.
Block 05 leaves at the end of April, 02 a month later – but before they leave the construction shed and are lowered on to a barge, they have to be weighed.
Obviously bathroom scales won’t do. Carefully-position hydraulic jacks and sensitive load cells convert force into an electrical signal which in turn is translated into an accurate measurement of the block’s weight.
“Getting the weight and centre of gravity right is really important when it comes to arranging for sections to be safely lifted – or moved by barge,” explained Paul Bowsher of the Aircraft Carrier Alliance, the combined BAE-Thales-Babcock and MOD team working on the huge project.
“We weigh each section at least three times to make sure the readings are accurate.”

http://navynews.co.uk/archive/news/item/4171

[Kraken]

Y sobre los anteriores:

The US Navy has apparently stepped in loudly in the carrier issue, showing that they care about UK's carrier strike capability much more than even i expected. It seems that the assistant secretary of the US Navy, Sean J Stackley, has personally written a letter to Philip Hammond to make the case for CATOBAR conversion and for F35C order, ensuring that it will be responsibility of the US Navy to make the EMALS work, and, importantly, stay within a cost of 458 million pounds.
The cost of the work required to modify the ship to fit the EMALS kit is estimated at 400 million, giving a potential total cost for one vessel of 858 million pounds, near the lowest figure of the initial conversion cost estimate (which reported that cost would vary between 800 and 1200 millions).

http://ukarmedforcescommentary.blogspot.com.es/2012/03/dodgy-rethink-wait-second.html

[a615618]

Aunque sus primos Americanos les hagan un buen descuento sigue siendo mucho dinero para como estan las finanzas en la vieja Europa, de todas maneras no me queda claro si las catapultas EMALS se las van a instalar a los dos portaaviones, ¿ Se sabe ya definitivamente ? De todos modos es algo subrealista, las noticias ultimas es que los Brit se estaban pensando en volver al F-35B con lo que los Americanos se han visto obligados a ofrecerles esta oferta.Es demencial !!!!
Un saludo.

[Kraken]

No hay ninguna "oferta".

[KL Albrecht Achilles]

Armada del Reino Unido retira del servicio al destructor Tipo 42 ‘HMS Liverpool’

http://maquina-de-combate.com/blog/?p=23700

Saludos

[Mauricio]

Sin comentarios

[Kraken]

Y mientras se deciden por qué modelo de aviación embarcada quieren, aqui está el Royal Navy yearbook for 2011/12, con los planes que tienen (si no los cambian claro).

http://www.newsdeskmedia.com/files/rn-a-global-force-2011-12.pdf

[hunterhik]

No sera que los Britanicos tiene pensado manejar los 2 tipos de aviones, es decir dejar 1 Portaaviones Catobar y otro STOVL????..seria interesante saber a que se llegara, saludos

[Kraken]

No, o STOVL o CATOBAR, aún están haciendo números a ver qué resulta más económico/operativo, otros no tienen esa suerte.

[Vanguardia]

Los Británicos no saben ni lo que quieren. Hace poco tiempo salió Cameron hablando del F-35B (el que le gusta a Vet ), y que los costes de ponerle los EMALS a los futuros portaviones Británicos era de mas de 1.8 Billones de Libras. Sobretodo, dado que el F-35B está cumpliendo aceleradamente (de hecho está por delante en el calendario de las pruebas previstas, en parte gracias a que ya hay unos 13-14 aviones realizando pruebas) pues parece que han vuelto a la opción VSTOL.

[a615618]

Hola a todos,

Yo creo que lo que les ha hecho cambiar otra vez al F-35B es que como dice el reportaje..."si se deciden por el F-35C todo el sistema de avión, EMALs y cables de retención no estaría listo y plenamente operativo hasta el 2027".

Dinero, interés industrial y deseo político a los Británicos les sobra. Un saludo.