Corea del Sur respondio con 80 rondas de artillería contra la batería que abrió fuego. Luego se dijo que fueron 35. Pero parece que fueron en total 80 en dos atauqes, el primero falló porque el radar entibatería no funcionó bien, y el segundo...pues dicen que hicieron pupa en el Norte, pero a saber.
Y unas maniobras en ese lugar y en ese momento son casi más respuesta que los pepinos de artillería, no desestimes el lenguaje diplomático.
En Europa no hicieron la guerra por matar a un duque o archiduque?
Y en Troya por los cuernos de uno, no te jode.
Eso es simplificar mucho las cosas. Pero un Archiduque...era un Archiduque, y solo fué el detonante. Y fijate que para la siguiente vez que nos liamos a lo loco, tuvieron que pasar muuuuuuuchas cosas antes de ir a la guerra. Demasiadas cosas, es verdad.
Ok, osea que hasta que no ataquen la capital.... amenazas no mas... total en los pueblos no viven personas, viven pueblerinos... jejejeje.... andaaaaa....
No, y ya he dicho en este hilo que da igual donde viviesen esas personas.
Lo que quiero decir es que no es lo mismo hacer la guerra en una selva perdida de la mano de Dios que en medio de ciudades de millones de habitantes, fábricas, etc,etc. No se trata del objetivo del casus belli, se trata del teatro de operaciones.
Y en el Cenepa no se jugo a las cartas... pero vaya ud a saber... fuego con fuego sin esperar a una 3era o 4ta
No dudo que para los soldados que pelean, lo mismo da ocho que ochenta, para él, individualmente, es una guerra. Pero ahí mismo indica que hubo muchos y variados choques durante años, antes de ir a la guerra, y hablamos de un trozo de selva.
Primero leo la noticia sobre la respuesta de CdS y despues contesto.
Pues tira para atras al día del ataque, y se da cuenta de las respuesta surcoreana, y más adelante, se va detallando.
Esto es lo que decían los sureños.
South Korea military says counterfire caused 'many casualties' in North
TOKYO (Kyodo) -- South Korea's military indicated Thursday that it inflicted "many casualties" on North Korea when it returned artillery fire in response to the North's Nov. 23 bombardment of a South Korean island, according to Yonhap News Agency.
"Satellite images show our shells landed on a cluster of barracks in North Korea, so we presume there have been many casualties and considerable property damage," a senior official at the South's Joint Chiefs of Staff was quoted as saying.
The South is still analyzing images taken by its own satellite to assess the extent of damage and casualties on the North's side, the official said on condition of anonymity, according to the report.
Earlier Thursday, lawmaker Kwon Young Se of the ruling Grand National Party said he verified in two satellite photos unveiled by the National Intelligence Service earlier in the day that about 10 rounds of the South's return fire fell inside the North's coastline artillery bases.
"About 10 rounds of our military's shells fell inside artillery bases in Mudo, and one of them was shown in the photos to have hit directly on the far end of a military barrack," Kwon said in a report by Yonhap.
"It is possible to assume (North Korea) suffered quite serious human casualties," Kwon said.
Kwon said one photo was taken by a South Korean satellite and the other was from a commercial satellite.
The comments contrast with those by U.S. security think tank STRATFOR, which said earlier this week that North Korea does not seem to have suffered serious damage from the South's shelling, judging from a satellite image it released.
The photo, taken by the DigitalGlobe three days after the two Koreas' artillery exchange, shows 14 spots in fields apparently impacted by shells fired by South Korea in response to the North's attack on Yeonpyeong Island, suggesting the shells landed there after flying over the North's artillery positions.
But there were no signs of impact around the places where the North's Multiple Launch Rocket firing batteries are thought to have actually been positioned.
The exact place in the photo was not specified, but it is highly likely to be the Kaemori area of North Korea's western coast, about 10 kilometers north of the Yeonpyeong.
When the South commenced its firing, the North was likely to have already moved its MLR batteries to other places, considering the muzzles of the batteries were not seen in six places where the batteries were previously positioned.
According to STRATFOR, South Korea fired some 80 rounds from a battery of six K9 155-millimeter self-propelled howitzers from a military based on Yeonpyeong, the initial targets of which were existing emplacements, not the new North Korean positions near Kaemori.
The South's return fire began 2:47 p.m., minutes before the initial North Korean barrage ended, and the exchange of fire continued from 3:10 p.m. to 3:41 p.m., it said.
"It is not clear whether South Korean counterbattery fire was sufficiently timely to be at all effective -- it is common practice for both mortars and artillery to displace rapidly after firing when there is a counterbattery threat," the think tank said.
The South Korean military, which has come under fire for its alleged slow response to the North's shelling, has said about 45 out of the 80-some rounds landed in North Korea.
Meanwhile, an official at the South Korean Defense Ministry said Thursday that South Korea will conduct a live-fire exercise again on Yeonpyeong Island "at an appropriate time."
"Our position is a live-fire drill will be resumed at an appropriate time," the official said.
He was commenting on media reports the South Korean military is planning to resume a live-fire drill in the near future in a move to show the South is not bowing down to the North's artillery threats.
North Korea's artillery attack on the island near the disputed sea border killed two soldiers, two civilians, and caused extensive damage. It was the most serious attack on the South since the 1950-1953 Korean War.
(Mainichi Japan) December 3, 2010
Y por solo hacer eso, se han cargado al ministro de defensa.
Saludos.