Artes Marciales en los Ejércitos de Latinoamérica

[popigor]

Me gustan los que practiqué: jiujitsu, muay thai y box, pero prefiero el sambo y el crav magga para defensa militar o policial...

[parzifal]

Me gustan los que practiqué: jiujitsu, muay thai y box, pero prefiero el sambo y el crav magga para defensa militar o policial...

+1

una consulta, por que el sambo? en su version tradicional o la version Spetnaz? pórque tiene cosas bastante distintas.

[Maya]

Efectividad y usabilidad a un lado, aqui podemos leer sobre la influencia y la adopción de las tecnicas del Jiu-Jitsu, por las diversas ramas de las fuerzas Armadas de Norteamerica....

THE U.S. ARMY ADOPTS GRACIE JIU-JITSU

During late 1994 or early 1995, then-Lt. Colonel Stanley A. McChrystal, the new commander of the 2nd Ranger Battalion at Fort Lewis, Washington, decided to reinvigorate hand-to-hand combat training in his unit. "We got out the FM 21- 150," said then-Staff Sergeant Matt Larsen, "and started doing just what it said to do. After about two or three months we went back to the commander and told him that it was a waste of our training time. He told us that it if was a waste of time, then there must be a reason, and told us to come up with a better answer".

There was no money to create a Ranger-specific system, so the program had to be reasonably off-the-shelf. Toward determining the best system, the battalion organized a committee of experienced martial arts practitioners. "Our criteria for success was simple," said Larsen (personal communication, July 2002). "The average soldier in the Army had to know what the literature said he should know, and the system should produce its own experts independently of continuing outside instruction."

The style that the Ranger Battalion eventually decided to adopt was Gracie Jiu- Jitsu. It wasn't because other systems were less valid, or that the battalion wanted its soldiers rolling around on the ground with armed enemies. Indeed, Larsen (personal communication, July 2002) readily admitted that a "weakness of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu is its focus on unarmed, one-on-one arena fighting." On the other hand, it "fit the realities of the world".

First, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu was reasonably easy to learn and use. Thus, within the few hours per week that commanders were willing to dedicate to combatives training, individual soldiers could become quantifiably more proficient than they were when they started. Additionally, associated injuries were usually no more serious than a black eye or split lip, and fitting it into existing conditioning programs didn't put new demands on already crowded training schedules.

Second, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu allowed competition. This allowed both individuals and units to compete among themselves, thereby building morale and encouraging improvement. "Competition," said Larsen (personal communication, July 2002). "is a key element to the implementation of a successful combatives program. If you can be the unit champion, then there is a reason to excel."

Third, during the years that this program was being designed, the Gracies were winning Ultimate Fighting Championships. Consequently, it was easy to show skeptics that Gracie Jiu-Jitsu worked. Finally, said Larsen (personal communication, July 2002), "The lesson that the Gracies had to teach was that a realistic training plan is necessary if you expect results. The guys they fought in the early Ultimate Fighting Championships had unrealistic training plans, whereas the Gracies' had a training plan specifically geared toward that sort of competition."

Therefore, for a variety of reasons, Rangers took to practicing Gracie Jiu-Jitsu without unreasonable pressure from supervisors, or too much complaining from trainees. Subsequently, former Rangers spread the Gracie Jiu-Jitsu gospel to other commands, and in January 2002, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu became the cornerstone of the U.S. Army's combatives program. "Soldiers have a surprising degree of skill retention from one month to the next," said an Army National Guard sergeant who started training his men in these methods later that year. "I think the fact that they actually enjoy the training contributes greatly to that!".

http://gracieasia.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/5707957-the-us-army-adopts-gracie-jiu-jitsu

Gracie Survival Tactics (GST) Military & Law Enforcement was formally known as Gracie Combatives Military & Law Enforcement (GST) and Gracie Resisting Attack Procedures for Law Enforcement (GRAPLE).


After the UFC took the world by storm in 1993, people all over the world realized that Gracie Jiu-Jitsu was the only system that would give someone a realistic chance against a larger, more athletic opponent. Among those intrigued by the effectiveness of our self-defense system was a group of very high-ranking members of the U.S. Armed Forces.

In 1994, they contacted Rorion Gracie and asked him to develop an intensive course based on the most effective techniques of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu, which would give soldiers maximum hand-to-hand combat effectiveness in the least amount of time.

The result was Gracie Combatives. Since the inception of the Gracie Combatives course, we have taught the techniques to Special Forces, Delta and Navy Seal Operators and uniformed personnel in every branch of our military: US Army, US Air Force, US Marine Corps and US Coast Guard. In January 2002, the U.S. Army officially adopted Gracie Jiu-Jitsu as its foundation for hand-to-hand combat with the publication of a manual based almost entirely on the original program designed by Rorion Gracie.

By that time, members of the law enforcement community had already asked Rorion to develop a program that would give police officers the ability to control violent suspects and was court defensible. The result was G.R.A.P.L.E. (Gracie Resisting Attack Procedures for Law Enforcement). To date, nearly every federal law enforcement agency including the FBI, Secret Service, U.S. Border Patrol, and CIA along with countless state and local law enforcement agencies utilize the G.R.A.P.L.E. techniques.

http://www.gracieacademy.com/military.asp

Since the Gracie Jiu-Jitsu system and Mixed Martial Arts has been adopted by the U.S. Armed Forces, the Gracies have taught the techniques to Special Forces, Delta an Navy SEAL Operators and uniformed personnel in every branch of the military: U.S. Army, U.S. Air Force, U.S. Marine Corps and U.S. Coast Guard. Now, the U.S. Army and officially adopted Gracie Jiu-Jitsu and MMA as its foundation for their hand-to-hand combat program.

To date, nearly every U.S. federal law enforcement agency including the FBI, Secret Service, U.S. Border Patrol, and CIA along with countless state and local law enforcement agencies utilize the Gracie Jiu-Jitsu sytem and Mixed Martial Arts.

http://www.synergyjiujitsu.com/law.html




Aqui los clientes norteamericanos de los diversos sistemas de defensa Grcie, como el Gracie Resisting Attack Procedures for Law Enforcement (GRAPLE), Gracie Combatives Military & Law Enforcement (GCMLE), Gracie Survival Tactics (GST) for Law Enforcement and Gracie Combatives Military (GCM):

•ATF - Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms
•BIA - Bureau of Indian Affairs
•CIA - Central Intelligence Agency
•DCIS - Defense Criminal Investigative Service
•DEA - Drug Enforcement Administration
•DHS - Department of Homeland Security
•DLA - Defense Logistics Agency
•DOE - Department of Energy
•FAA - Federal Aviation Administration
•FBI - Federal Bureau of Investigation
•FLETC - Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (GA) & (NM)
•HQ US Special Operations Command
•ICE - Immigration & Customs Enforcement
•INS - Immigration & Naturalization Service
•US Air Force
•US Air Force - TACP (Tactical Air Control Party)
•US Army
•US Army - JFK Special Warfare Center
•US Army Delta
•US Army Rangers
•US Army Special Forces
•US Border Patrol
•US Bureau of Land Management
•US Coast Guard
•US Customs Service
•US Department of Defense
•US Federal Air Marshals
•US Justice Department
•US Marine Corps
•US Marshals
•US Military Academy - West Point
•US Navy
•US Navy SEALs
•US Postal Service (Office of Inspector General)
•US Probation
•US Secret Service
•US Secret Service (Presidential Protection Division)
•US State Dept Diplomatic Security
•WHCA - White House Communications Agency

http://www.gracieacademy.com/military_clients.asp




...y algunos de sus clientes internacionales:

•Australia - Melbourne Police Department, Special Ops and more
•Canada- Winnipeg Police Department and more
•Europe - Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe and more
•Israeli Security Agency (ISA) & G.S.S. Protection & Security Division
•Republic of Korea - United Nations Command Security Battalion - Joint Security Area
•United Kingdom - British Police - Special Ops. Group and more
•United Nations Command - Joint Security Area
•Iraq, Camp Victory US Army Base - Multi-National Corps.

http://www.gracieacademy.com/military_clients.asp





Salud.

[OliverBR]

Holas,

No lo sé si es la miesma programacion o si tienen documentarios especificos a cada país, pero acá en Brasil se esta pasando ahora miesmo en el History Channel un documentario sobre el Helio Gracie.

Saludos!

[parzifal]

Maya, no e negado que se haga eso, pero tambien dice lo mismo que yo dije hace varios post atras.. son cursos.. no una linea de entrenamiento base para FUERZAS ARMADAS. ahora si para ti la policia es fuerza armadas, lo entenderia , pero la verdad es que son fuerzas de orden y seguridad. tiene una aplicacion distinta. y de lo que dijiste se puede inferir que nunca has hecho artes marciale so jiujitsu, por ende dificilmente entiendas alo que vamos con decirte que el bjj no es efectivo militarmente hablando, al menos para uno que si ha hecho durante años artes marciales y ha pasado por instruccion de combate militar.

como dijo cierto romano, solo hay que saber leer (e ingles)

a todo esto el bjj es exelente... pero en el piso... y luego de largos minutos de combate .

[popigor]

Me gustan los que practiqué: jiujitsu, muay thai y box, pero prefiero el sambo y el crav magga para defensa militar o policial...

+1

una consulta, por que el sambo? en su version tradicional o la version Spetnaz? pórque tiene cosas bastante distintas.

Me refiero a la versión militar, la que se imparte a los Spetnaz. Me gusta porque ha reunido lo mejor del judo, la lucha y el muay thai -me parece-.
Golpes, proyecciones prácticas, llaves, lucha de pie y en suelo... corrige las desventajas del jiujitsu y las deficiencias del muay thai: una especie de valetodo militar con excelentes tecnicas de desarme. Sambo y Crav magga son para mi la mejor combinación.

[Darkness Knight]

Maya, por lo regular tu aportas mucho a este foro, pero aquí claramente demuestra no haber practicado nunca un arte marcial, ni siquiera haber tenido una pelea real. En los 90s, tanto el ejercito de Estados unidos como los marines aprendieron algunas técnicas de BJJ, pero NO es la base de sus métodos de combate, es solo el complemento de dichas técnicas. Ahora una aclaración, los Spetnaz no practican Sambo, practican Systema, que es un método diferente (muy diferente) al Sambo. El Systema es un estilo bastante completo que enseña no solo el combate a manos libres si no el uso de armas como cuchillo, pistola, pala y cualquier cosa que sirva en una pelea.

http://russianspetsnaz.com/systema.php

Algunas imágenes:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0Rlc85iYaeE/T ... ystema.jpg


http://www.systemaryabko.ru/en/images/005.jpg

http://www.hispagimnasios.com/a_varios/ ... _ruso3.jpg

[parzifal]

tienes Razon, es systema,

hay que agregar algo al estilo de los militares ruso. aplican la psicologia y focalizaciones del inconciente del adversario sobre uno. es realmente impresionante como engañan a tu cerebro a nivel de cerebelo (que regula algunas funciones motrices relacionadas con el equilibrio) haciendo que tu mismo te caigas o pierdas la estabilidad.

y la mezcla que sugiere popigor es realmente efectiva idealmente hablando, imaginando el focus a zonas poco frecuentes en otras artes marciales como son testiculos ojos, epiglotis, etc.

Saludos!

PD: nunca he hecho box pero conociendo varias disciplinas marciales y deportivas debo reconocer que a algo que si le temo es a un golpe directo de un boxeador.
hasta hace algunas decadas a los conscriptos en Chile se les enseñaba boxeo y TKD militarizado. curiosa mezcla .

[Maya]

Darkness Knight

Maya, por lo regular tu aportas mucho a este foro, pero aquí claramente demuestra no haber practicado nunca un arte marcial, ni siquiera haber tenido una pelea real.

Otro..

¿Y? ¿A que viene eso?

El hecho que yo diga que enseñan Jiu-Jitsu a las Fuerzas Armadas de Norteamerica (algo que es incontroversial, a menos que tu nos aportes pruebas contundentes de que eso no ha sido asi)... es una cuestion irrelevante e intracendente. Tampoco significa que yo, tu, él, o pichuco, sabemos, o no sabemos de Artes Marciales. Andaaaaaa!!

Ahora resulta que uno se debe callar las cosas, sencillamente porque a otroforista no le parece. "A callarse la boca todos aquellos que aprecian y a quienes les gusta la formula uno, solo porque ninguno ha manejado una Ferrari en toda su vida"

Yo no soy el que me aparezco por aca a este foro, portando avatares con mascaras de luchador de la WWF, o creyendome el ultimo Ninja de la pelicula del barrio.

No vengas aca a juzgarme. Aporta, haz lo tuyo (si es que tienes tantos conocimientos como aparentas tener) muestranos tus ejemplos, tu data, tus fuentes documentales, y se agradeceria que estas vinieran acompañadas de su respectivo vinculo. Tu sabes... por aquello de ver para creer, y de constatar para ser legal, ves?

Las comparaciones personales... el ego... que mi Papa es mas grande que el tuyo.. que yo se mas que tu porque mi nick es de un combatiente del ultimo video-juego de Playstation... Sobrannnnnnn.



y para la muestra de como es que se debate aqui, te refuto....


Darkness Knight

En los 90s, tanto el ejercito de Estados unidos como los marines aprendieron algunas técnicas de BJJ

...y no solo fue en los 90's si no también en los 2000's, hasta ayer por la mañana (lee con cuidado)....

The martial art techniques learned by SEALs are a part of the Close Quarters Combat course that includes crucial moves from over 50 different types of martial arts. Some of the martial art techniques learnt and used by Navy SEALs comes from Jujitsu, Ninjitsu, Kung Fu, Karate, Judo, Krav Maga, Muay Thai, Sylat Knife Techniques, Western Boxing, and much more. Since there is more than one form of martial arts hence it is known as mixed martial arts. The most common mixed martial art forms used by SEALs include Muay Thai, Brazilian Jujitsu, and Krav Maga, the latter is the martial arts technique adopted by Israeli Commandoes as well.

The most popular of all mixed martial art techniques taught to Navy SEALs is the combat Jujitsu. Classified as an extreme martial art, it is used by SEALs as well as other Special Operation Units of the US Military like the Green Berets. Combat Jujitsu is a hand-to-hand combat training but is far different from the techniques used for self defense. The techniques of combat Jujitsu are used for closing on to your opponent and causing severe damage leading to death. The techniques make the SEALs extremely lethal in hand-to-hand combat as well.

http://information.usnavyseals.com/2009/09/martial-art-training-navy-seals.html


...pero bueh, 'yo nunca eh practicado Artes Marciales, y por consiguiente no se nada de lucha personal, y asi mismo, eso desvirtua el hecho que los Navy SEALS, la fuerza militar Elite mas excelsa del mundo, tenga como base de su Programa de Combate en Recintos Cerrados, al Combat Jiu-Jitsu.'

'Como yo se tan poco, lo mas seguro es que eso también sea mentira.'




Saludos Cordiales.

[parzifal]

a lo que se refiere Darkness Knight es a que si nunca has estado bajo un regimen de artes marciales por un tiempo considerable dificilmente entiendas el por que el bjj solo es un cursillo mas de un par de semanas en USA y no una linea medular progresiva de entrenamiento de los años de preparacion completa. como lo es el kempo system, donde la mayoria sale de cinturon negro. hasta donde se y de lo que se puede inferir de tu informacion no oficial del entrenamiento de las fuerzas americanas, no sacan grado, sino que es un curso como bien dije, no una preparación piramidal ni programática.

ademas si posteas link donde son paginas oficiales del gracie jutsu , es como obvio por un asunto de mercadeo que utilizaran términos como "adopted"

aqui tienes alguien que hizo carrera adentro de las fuerzas armadas y de orden en estados unidos entrenando a sus componentes.

http://www.whitetigerkenpo.com/about_staff_savbio.asp

http://www.leewedlake.com/articles2.asp?articleid=121

http://www.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=86775

UNARMED COMBAT
As land wars have become composed of ’mini battles’, insurgencies and terror-
ism, the growth of interest in the uses of Special Forces has quite naturally
led to a serious re-assessment of guerrilla tactics, unconventional warfare
and increases in alternative methods of killing. It became apparent that
knives, bows and arrows, stalking techniques and all the other specialities of
individual human combat were to become more important than ever. The only
heroes of the Vietnam War were the US ’guerrilla-style forces’, the Green
Berets. US Special Forces soldiers are now trained in ancient fighting
techniques in such places as the Hwarangdo Hand-to-Hand Combat and Special
Weapons School. This Special Forces camp is located at John F. Kennedy Centre
for Military Assistance, Fort Bragg, North Carolina. Instructors teach the
age-old arts utilised by guerrilla fighters the world over, and particularly
the Orient. Though hwarangdo is of Korean origin, its roots and ties are
shared by other Asian nations such as China and Japan. And, in fact, the most
celebrated guerrilla fighters of history were the ’invisible assassins’, the
ninja, who were employed as spies, kidnappers, killers and special surprise
and shock attack forces during Japan’s pre-Meiji Restoration period. The full
range of fighting techniques are employed by hwarangdo experts. The art itself
is a comprehensive amalgam of all forms of personal unarmed combat. Training
includes the use of hand weapons, revival techniques, joint-breaking
techniques and stalking techniques. Techniques adopted from other martial arts
including judo, aikido, jujitsu, karate, tang soo do, Korean kwon pup or
kempo, are regularly utilised. Students at the special training camp learn the
standard martial arts punching, blocking and kicking techniques. Beyond that,
finger pressure points, joint breaking and throwing techniques are taught.
There is a full week’s instruction in such areas as knife fighting, knife
throwing, short stick fighting, garrottes, crossbows and handgun reaction,
blowguns and bayonet training. Special Forces are taught Korean Eun Shin Bop,
or making oneself invisible. Trainees are taught to conceal themselves in
front of others, utilising such techniques as conforming to the terrain and
moving in light shadow. Sentry stalking, silent killing and prisoner-of-war
snatches all figure prominently in the instruction. The training is designed
to teach instructors in the basics of operational hand-to-hand warfare and the
use of special weapons as taught by the hwarangdo method. Instructors then
report back to their units and teach their staffs. The Green Berets, Rangers
and SEALs in particular value highly the improvement in unarmed combat
techniques this brings. One of the primary reasons, then, for training elite
troops in martial arts, is to give them a decided mental and physical edge.
The actual techniques themselves will most likely not even be used. The modern
Special Forces soldier is heavily armed with a vast array of weapons specific
to his mission. Sometimes he will engage the enemy only as a last alternative,
especially if his mission is to gather intelligence without leaving any trace
of him having been there. The SF soldier will use martial arts only as a last
resort, when all his other weapons fail, or when he has no other weapons – for
example during an escape and evasion attempt. If martial arts are his weapon
of choice to be used in situations like trying to escape and evade, then the
techniques taught to him must take into account his probable physical
condition – hungry and nearing exhaustion. He cannot rely on techniques which
require considerable strenuous activity. They must be quick, easy and
efficient. Martial arts training for elite soldiers must be mission-specific,
which gener- ally means causing disabling injury or death. The soldier who
will use martial arts in an escape and evasion situation, or whose other
weapons have failed, will have no need of restraining techniques. If he must
fight, he will not capture the enemy, he will kill him. Martial arts
techniques must be maintainable with a minimum of effort and time, and the
typical Special Forces soldier therefore spends the majority of his service
either keeping his own skills polished, or teaching his skills to others. (see
also KRAV MAGA, TEUKGONG MUSUL).

TEUKGONG MUSUL
The fighters wear shoes rather than battle barefoot and their moves are
determined by the opponent’s proximity as they seamlessly combine traditional
taekwondo kicks with jujitsu chokes, while at the same time wielding a knife.
They are specialists in silent killing techniques. Anytime, anywhere, any
weapon, anything you’ve got is the philosophy behind teukgong musul, a form of
martial arts designed to meet the demands of Special Forces operations. In the
late 1970s, President Park Chung Hee ordered the creation of a superior style
of martial arts to counter the North Korean elite forces’ ’Geuksul’ style. The
martial arts instructor and a senior officer with the 27th Anti-Terrorism unit
were responsible for developing this new style of fighting, adapting many
different forms of martial arts to meet the demands of the Special Forces.
They performed a demonstration in June 1979 for President Park and the new
techniques were accepted. Teukgong Musul is now taught to the Chong Wa Dae
presidential bodyguards and units of the Korean Special Warfare Command Corps,
as well as the Kuwaiti and some US Special Forces.

COMBAT TRAINING FOR SPECIAL FORCES

A Special Forces soldier is the most elite fighting man in any army. He is required to be fully trained in all areas of combat: communications, demolitions, light weaponry, medical and intelligence. Special Forces soldiers in the world’s leading units are airborne-qualified, with many specialising in HALO (High Altitude Low Opening), SCUBA, STABO (extraction methods), and SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape). A perfect example of the standard and complexity of the combat training required by the elite units would be the ’Combatives Course’ of the US Special Forces or Green Berets. Special Forces teams have high-priority missions, sometimes going weeks or months without contact with friendly units. The special Forces Combatives Course enhances the physical attributes, mental awareness, and self-confidence of the SF soldier. Also, due to the type of missions he is assigned, a thorough knowledge of combatives is often necessary to raise the Special Forces soldier’s capabilities to a level whereby he will be successful. The Special Forces Combatives Course provides the medium to build a better fighting man, both physically and mentally. The SF Combatives training programme furnishes comprehensive physical development, cardiovascular and aerobic conditioning, and develops anaerobic endurance, muscular strength, flexibility and agility. A combination of these physiological factors develops a soldier who is in overall top physical condition – a requirement for the Special Forces mission. From a psychological standpoint, the Special Forces Combatives Course is also quite beneficial. The inner knowledge that, if stripped of all weapons, one still has the skills necessary to effectively defend oneself, greatly increases a soldier’s self-confidence. Special Combatives training, above that of the average soldier, enhances a Green Beret’s sense of identity and pride in what Special Forces stands for. The nature of the Special Forces mission means an increased possibility for close-combat encounters. Special Forces Combatives training is designed specifically for close combat and is geared for total annihilation. A soldier untrained for close combat might become wounded and/or die in such a situation and thus fail in his mission. A soldier who is properly trained in close combat will effectively neutralise his enemy and accomplish his mission.

The Special Forces Combatives Course is divided into nine basic components: physical fitness, sentry neutralisation, Filipino martial arts, kicking, punching and hand strikes, grappling and throwing, knife techniques, equipment training and mental/philosophical training.

Physical Fitness A Special Forces soldier must have outstanding endurance, strength and skill. He must be able to overcome obstacles, kill or disable the enemy in hand-to-hand combat with or without a weapon, and advance swiftly, silently and effectively. The Special Forces devotes a great deal of time and effort towards making its fighting men the best in the world.

The physical fitness programme for the Special Forces Combatives Course is geared towards achieving high fitness levels in the shortest time possible through strenuous physical exercises. This programme is divided into five ’gates’ or stations: upper body, middle body, lower body, reaching and aerobics. These stations are further subdivided into variables. The variables are based on data drawn from tests and studies conducted over a number of years, as well as personal experiences of the instructors. The exercises include conventional army programmes, t’ai chi reaches, Ranger push-ups, Tiger push-ups, martial arts stretching, isometric resistance, SCUBA sit-ups and boxing reachbacks.

Sentry Neutralisation Sentry neutralisation is taught utilising empty-hand, garrotte and knife techniques. Not only are the actual killing movements taught and practised, but Green Berets also learn the philosophy of close- quarter termination, stealth, stalking, visual domination, spring power timing, environmental control and spontaneous reactions (both of yourself and the sentry target). Realism in all situations is stressed to its highest point. Two-man sentry neutralisation techniques are presented for absolute control of an armed guard.

Filipino Martial Arts: One of the unique aspects of the Special Forces Combatives Course is the training Green Berets receive in the battle-proven Filipino martial arts, more commonly known as kali, escrima, or amis. The Filipino martial arts are often erroneously thought of as exclusively weapons arts. Although the Filipino arts do place an emphasis on weapons (mostly sticks and/or bladed weapons), they are actually a total method of fighting, utilising all ranges of combat with an integrated and sophisticated empty- hand system. Great emphasis is placed on infighting and grappling, because combat generally starts at close quarters or deteriorates to that range very quickly. The armed aspects of the Filipino martial arts are stressed in the course, however, since a bludgeoning-type weapon is most often improvised in survival situations. One can always find a stick or club, and if a Special Forces operative is forced by the situation to expend all of his ammunition, his assault rifle can make an efficient weapon even if it is empty. Personnel are taught to effectively strike with and manipulate sticks or some type of bladed weapon at long and close ranges. Apart from offensive manoeuvres, counter- offensive concepts and techniques are also essential parts of the curriculum. Unlike many martial arts and their weapons phases, individuals taught in the Filipino styles can be battlefield ready in an extremely short period of time.

Kicking: The kicking techniques imparted to the Special Forces soldier are meant for the battlefield, and thus many classical martial arts kicks are not taught – not because they are not effective techniques, but because the soldiers do not have the time necessary to put into learning them. Careful consideration of the Special Forces soldier’s equipment and heavy boots dictates the kicking methods taught. He must learn effective kicks that will definitely work in a combat situation – strong, explosive kicks that will cripple and maim an enemy in a matter of seconds. The Special Forces Combatives Course emphasises realistic training methods such as those developed by the late Bruce Lee. Full-contact training with 100 per cent commitment on air shields, heavy bags, Thai pads, and other aids, is an integral part of the kicking phase. Close- quarters kneeing, stomping, and special techniques for kicking an enemy when he is on the ground are also among the situational training presented.

Hand Techniques: In combat, one of the Special Forces soldier’s most essential skills is the ability to utilise his hands and elbows in an explosively powerful way in order to effectively neutralise an enemy. Again, training methods developed by Bruce Lee and his protege, Dan Inosanto, are stressed. A finger jab, punch, slap or elbow strike can be used singly or in conjunction with kicking or grappling, depending on the situation. Focus gloves, heavy bags, and simple notebook paper are among the training apparatuses used in this portion of the programme.

Throwing/Grappling: The concepts of throwing and grappling used in the combatives course are derived from jujitsu and dumog (Filipino grappling). Such manoeuvres as the step-over, hip and circle throws are covered in the basic course. Other methods of grappling taught include leg, arm and head takedowns, neck and joint manipulations, and chokes – all in conjunction with offensive or counter-offensive attacks.

Knife Techniques: Easily carried, silent, and hard to counter, the knife can be a formidable tool when placed in the hands of a properly trained individual. Whether one is in a steamy jungle or a back alley, a knife can be a great asset in the event of close combat. Often a Special Forces soldier must rely on his knife, either to assure a quiet kill while behind enemy lines, or as an effective alternative if his primary weapons have been rendered inoperative or inappropriate for the situation.

Practitioners of the Filipino martial arts have developed knife fighting to an extremely high degree of efficiency, and Filipino methods constitute the bulk of SF knife training. Additional concepts and methods of knife fighting are also incorporated into the knife phase of the combatives course. Fluid and dynamic offensive strategies are taught to SF students for facing unarmed opponents, in addition to specific counters to be utilised when facing an enemy who is armed with a knife.

Equipment Training: Equipment training to simulate actual combative conditions, or to bring about full-power attacks, is a crucial part of the Special Forces Combatives programme. An assortment of pads, shields, and bags comprise the bulk of the training devices. Filipino martial arts weapons, improvised field weapons, and speciality weapons such as garrottes and blowguns are also used.

Mental/Philosophical Training: The philosophy behind the Special Forces Combatives Course is multifaceted. A Special Forces soldier already understands the unconventional aspects of modern warfare. He uses any and all means at his disposal in order to successfully complete his mission. A SF soldier’s greatest virtue is his ability to adapt and fit into a situation. A Green Beret is a trained expert in weapons (both standard and improvised), demolitions, medicine, communications and intelligence. He can conduct his operations via land, sea or air, and can survive in all terrains and environments. Unarmed combative skills are merely another tool in the Special Forces arsenal.

In war, a soldier’s job is to kill the enemy. The frame of mind that the Special Forces Combatives Course stresses is total annihilation. It is not a new concept in unarmed combat, but one that is not stressed nearly enough in the majority of conventional martial arts training. One must be able to turn on and off the killer animal dormant in all of us. Apart from this crucial mental aspect, when actually fighting in a wartime situation, the Combatives Course teaches students to understand and apply concepts of combat as opposed to learning specific techniques. Unlike many methods of unarmed combat, which specialise in one particular range of fighting, an understanding of the totality of combat is used as a base for the SF course. The Special Forces Combatives Course is presented in three phases. Phase one is a basic course designed to instruct the soldiers in fundamental fighting skills and concepts. Phase two is an advanced course, which includes more in-depth techniques combined with sensitivity training. The final phase is an instructor’s qualification course. After graduating from this phase, students are authorised to instruct others in the course. As these individuals transfer to other units in the army, they will be able to perpetuate the concepts and techniques as taught in the Special Forces Combatives Course.

http://www.navyseals.com/

quizás esto abra tu .. tozuda mente.

saludos

[Darkness Knight]

Resulta gracioso ver como algunos toman a personal lo que se les dice, hablando solo con el ORGULLO ROTO, mas no con la razón. Maya, me has dado la razón, no has practicado artes marciales, no has estado en una pelea, por consiguiente NO SABES de que se trata, y por lo visto tampoco sabes de publicidad, cosa de la que se hacen los mitos. Te repito, a ver si lo quieres entender, el BJJ NO es el método o estilo OFICIAL de ninguna de las fuerzas armadas de Estados Unidos, es solo OTRO de tantos cursos que se imparten allí. Solo intenta entender, para ser "cinta negra" en BJJ son 10 AÑOS de entrenamiento, y solo se especializan en lucha en el piso, crees que alguna fuerza armada, ya no de Estados unidos, del mundo entero tenga 10 AÑOS para formar a sus tropas, o a sus oficiales. Por otro lado, y en el colmo del desconocimiento, hablas de los SEALs, pero te tengo una mala noticia, tanto los SEALs como los miembros del USMC practican MCMAP, un sistema de combate creado por ellos mismos, para sus propias necesidades, que si bien INCORPORA algunas técnicas de BJJ NO se especializa en el, de hecho toma técnicas de Karate, Judo, Muay Thai, Kali incluso de Systema, ya que el método no es importante, solo el resultado.

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/20 ... ap-100410/

http://assets.mediaspanonline.com/prod/ ... MCMAP6.jpg


http://pembertoncombatives.com/images/M ... s2mini.jpg



Y te pregunto, sabes que es el COMBAT JU JITSU? claramente NO, o sabrias que NO es BJJ, sino algo distinto, te dejo este enlace para que sepas, nada mas:

http://www.combat-jujitsu.com/cjj/kosen.html

Ahora, resulta INFANTIL tu actitud de criticar lo que he puesto, solo por un avatar, lo cual suena mas a intento de hacer ver mal a otros que a aportación real, tipica actitud de NIÑO enojado. Según recuerdo en este foro uno de los miembros que mas aporta usa una llama como avatar, significara algo? dejaran de ser buenas sus aportaciones por eso?...
Mas aportaciones al tema y menos ORGULLO ROTO, por favor.

[Marcelo Bahia]

El BOPE también entrena Jiu Jitsu brasileño!!





BOPE entrenando Jiu-Jitsu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XTyGgnolz0&feature=related

Sds.

[Darkness Knight]

Aportando mas al tema, les dejo una pequeña clasificación sobre como serian las metodologías de combate según su uso, civil, policial y militar:

En caso de peligro:

Un civil: debe de alejarse del peligro de la manera más segura. En el caso de la defensa personal, limitarse a salir indemne de la situación de peligro, alejarse.

Un policía: debe de avanzar hacia el peligro y someterlo con el menor uso de la fuerza que sea posible, exceptuando los casos donde eso no es posible. En el caso de las técnicas de defensa personal, sometimientos, inmovilizaciones, las llamadas técnicas de arresto.

Un militar: El militar avanza hacia el peligro para ANIQUILARLO. Los militares son la última línea que mantiene el orden cuando este se rompe. En el caso de las técnicas, no existen como métodos de defensa, se realizan solo aquellas que aseguran el ANIQUILAMIENTO DEL AGRESOR. Suelen ser muy pocas y simples.

Esta clasificación no es oficial, pero da una idea clara de como se debería de entrenar según las necesidades del practicante, y el tipo de técnicas así como la preparación mental/emocional que se debe tener en cada una. Civil: defender, Policial: Someter, Militar: Aniquilar.

[Maya]

Si Marcelo... pero ya los expertospontificaron aqui, que eso eso es mentira. Esa imagen del BOPE entrenando Jiu-Jitsu es falsa, se nesecitan al menos 10 años y como tu y yo no practicamos ningun arte marcial, somo unos completos ignorantes, que no tenemos el derecho de opinar aqui sobre estos temas... ah, ademas somos unos niños y tenemos el orgullo herido (o lo que sea que quieran decir con eso)

What ever....


Salud.

[Darkness Knight]

Mas ORGULLO HERIDO y menos aportaciones. BOPE: Batallón de Operaciones POLICIALES Especiales, NO es una fuerza MILITAR. Recapitulando lo dicho antes:

Policía: debe de avanzar hacia el peligro y someterlo con el menor uso de la fuerza que sea posible, exceptuando los casos donde eso no es posible. En el caso de las técnicas de defensa personal, SOMETIMIENTOS, INMOVILIZACIONES, las llamadas técnicas de arresto.


Claramente cuando el ORGULLO ROTO entra por la puerta, la MADURES MENTAL escapa por la ventana. Y cero aportación...