Ejercicios Red Flag

[maximo]

O sea, una lista donde, salvando los F-18E/F, los demas son modelos anecdoticos frente a la flota de ese mismo avion...

[Experten]

Para nada, entre los F-2, los F-16, los F-15 y F/A-18E/F, ya deberíamos estar hablando de cuando menos unos 500 o 600 aviones que cuentan con todos los avances de punta en el área de combate aéreo. De anecdótico hay muy poco, si no es que nada, hay variantes de producción nuevas y modernizadas de estos modelos de caza.

La USAF estaría encuadrando a una tercera parte de su flota de Eagles con radares AESA que serían 18 Eagles con el APG-63(v)2 y 178 Eagles con el (v)3, sumando en efectivo, 196 aparatos de primera línea con estas características, la mitad de la flota en activo. El resto se desactivará gradualmente con la llegada del F-35.

Del F-2 y F-16E/F son variantes nuevas, en producción y permiten a sus operadores ser, efectivamente el segundo y tercer operador de radares AESA y el resto de las tecnologías aquí mencionadas. En el caso de Japón, el F-2 supone a futuro una tercera parte de la flota de cazas modernos que tendrá la JASDF en 2015, en el caso de los EAU, supone tres quintas partes.

El F-15SG (y a futuro el F-15K) podrían componer a la mayoría de la flota de aviones de combate de Singapur en un periodo de 10 a 15 años.

Obviamente si lo vemos desde una perspectiva en general, en donde solo un porcentaje muy pequeño de los 4400 F-16 y 1300 F-15 cuentan con estas tecnologías, efectivamente, nunca representarán una mayoría, al final sea como sea, entre los F-16, F-15 y F/A-18E/F, ya esta contemplada la producción de mas radares AESA que los que han podido producir un consorcio llamado NAETMA.

Lo anecdotico es un avión que por prudencia, no mencionaré su nombre, pero que llamaré no se... Phytoon... (para no herir suceptibilidades) este operativo, tras 20 años de desarrollo, con un radar de barrido mecánico. Es la experiencia pura... el como hacer mal las cosas, el filosofar en lugar de decidir, eso es lo anecdotico, Rusia, que hace 20 años estaba en quiebra, dio pasos mucho mas largos en 20 años que los que dio cierto caza europeo...

[maximo]

¿Te has fijado que la mitad de tu post esta compuesto de "tendran" y "seran"?

[Experten]

¿Te has fijado que la mitad de tu post esta compuesto de "tendran" y "seran"?

Sea como sea... al final, quién esta en desventaja es el "segundo mejor caza del mundo".

Ya esta integrada tecnología en los "inferiores" cazas Teen, que no esta disponible en otras fuerzas aéreas y que no se ha introducido en cantidades significativas o que simplemente no se ha completado, de hecho, eso es lo que está fuera de lo común.

[Anderson]

Respetados foristas, se viene de nuevo el Red Flag:

http://www.nellis.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123306215

Red Flag 12-4 to be held July 16-27

NELLIS AIR FORCE BASE, Nev. -- Southern Nevada residents may notice increased military aircraft activity as the Air Force conducts Red Flag 12-4 from July 16-27, 2012.

Red Flag is a realistic combat training exercise involving the air forces of the United States and its allies. The exercise is organized at Nellis Air Force Base, Nev., and hosted north of Las Vegas on the Nevada Test and Training Range--the U.S. Air Force's premier military training area with more than 12,000 square miles of airspace and 2.9 million acres of land. With 1,900 possible targets, realistic threat systems and an opposing enemy force that cannot be replicated anywhere else in the world, Nellis and the NTTR are the home of a "peacetime battlefield," providing combat air forces with the ability to train to fight together, survive together and win together.

The 414th Combat Training Squadron is responsible for executing Red Flag and this exercise is just one of a series of advanced training programs administered at Nellis and on the NTTR by organizations assigned to the U.S. Air Force Warfare Center.

More than 70 aircraft are scheduled to depart Nellis twice a day, around midday and again in the evening. Aircraft may remain in the air for up to eight hours. The flying times are scheduled to accommodate the other flying missions at Nellis and provide Red Flag participants with valuable training in planning and executing a wide-variety of combat missions.

The exercise will include the following U.S. forces and aircraft:

--- 48th Fighter Wing, 493rd Fighter Squadron F-15Cs, from Royal Air Force base Lakenheath, United Kingdom

--- 388th Fighter Wing, 421st Fighter Squadron F-16 CMs, from Hill AFB, Utah

--- 23rd Wing, 74th Fighter Squadron A-10Cs from Moody AFB, Ga.

--- 5th Bomb Wing, 23d Bomb Squadron B-52s from Minot AFB, N.D.

--- 28th Bomb Wing, 34th Bomber Squadron B-1Bs, from Ellsworth AFB, S.D.

--- Marine Tactical Electronic Warfare Squadron 3 EA-6Bs from Marine Corps Air Station Cherry Point, N.C.

--- U.S. Navy Electronic Attack Squadron 209 EA-6Bs from Joint Base Andrews, Md.

--- 53rd Wing, 422nd Test and Evaluation Squadron F-16CJs from Nellis AFB, Nev.

--- 53rd Wing, 85th Test and Evaluation Squadron F-16CJs from Nellis AFB, Nev.

--- 552nd Air Control Wing, 964th Air Control Squadron E-3s from Tinker AFB, Okla.

--- 432nd Wing, 15th Reconnaissance Squadron RQ-1s from Creech AFB, Nev.

--- 92nd Air Refueling Wing, 93rd and 92nd Air Refueling Squadron KC-135s from Fairchild AFB, Wash.

In addition to U.S. aircraft, the United Arab Emirates, flying F-16s, and the Air Force of the Republic of Colombia, flying KFIRs, will participate.

[Andrés Eduardo González]

Muy bueno, lo malo es que no habrán Kfir para el 20 de Julio...

[Hugacho]

Hola,

En el link adjunto se puede observar las marcas de las victorias conseguidas por los Typhoon sobre los Raptors durante la ultima Red Flag!!!!

http://theaviationist.com/2012/07/23/f- ... -markings/

saludos,

[Anderson]

Training exercises enhance international relations

by Charles Ramey
Secretary of the Air Force Public Affairs

7/30/2012 - NELLIS AIR FORCE BASE, Nev. (AFNS) -- Central Colombia and southern Nevada are vastly different locations. The terrain, weather and operational environments between each location vary to the extremes. So what drives an air force to briefly trade the jungles of South America for the desert of the American southwest? The answer is world-class, realistic air combat training that can't be acquired anywhere else.

July 16-27, Colombia became the 29th nation to participate in Red Flag exercises at Nellis Air Force Base.

With eight Israel Aerospace Industries Kfir multi-role fighters, and Boeing 707 and 767 tankers, the Colombian air force deployed beyond its borders for the first time to participate in the two-week large force employment exercise.

As part of a 60-aircraft mission package, the Colombian air force supported air interdiction strikes, combat search and rescue operations, SCUD hunts, location of high value targets, and defensive counter-air missions.

"The aircraft are compatible for the missions given to us and doing well here at Nellis," said Colombian Brig. Gen. Carlos Bueno, commander of the 100-plus-person Colombian contingent participating in Red Flag. "At first, our pilots felt a little intimidated by the size and complexity of the exercise, but they quickly moved beyond that as they saw how they contribute to the overall mission."

The Colombian air force, which has extensive experience in precision engagement via counternarcotics and counterterrorism operations, primarily supported air-to-ground operations throughout the exercise.

"These guys are good," said Maj. Mike Culhane, an F-15C pilot from the 493rd Fighter Squadron, RAF Lakenheath, England, and a mission package planner during Red Flag 12-4. "Our plans relied on their precision strike capabilities to take out enemy threats, and they hit their targets on every mission. They were integral to our overall success."

For the Colombian air force, Red Flag began long before July 16. The country started working with the U.S. Air Force Mission in Colombia to begin planning for the exercise when it was invited to participate in 2011.

"The 12-month program consisted of English language training where the pilots had to score an 85 percent or higher on proficiency tests and a series of flying competency assessments, " said Col. Hans Palaoro, chief of the U.S. Air Force Mission-Colombia. "They also participated in a series of mini practices in Colombia, then deployed to Kelly Field, Texas, for a final checkout before coming to Nellis."

Partnering with the Colombian air force via exercises and other activities is a priority for the U.S. Air Force.

"Efforts in the areas of precision strike and intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance have paid huge dividends for both countries as we work together to counter drug trafficking and insurgency," said Col. Michael Reed, chief of Strategy and Plans in the Secretary of the Air Force's International Affairs division. "We will continue to work with Colombia on a host of air force issues in order to increase our collective security. Colombian air force participation in Red Flag provides a perfect opportunity for us to learn valuable lessons from one another, and will serve to strengthen our strategically important relationship."

For the Colombians, the feelings are mutual.

"It's been amazing and great to work with other aircrews and share our stories and combat experience," Bueno said. "We've learned a lot of lessons that will help improve our interoperability with the U.S. Air Force and we hope to return for more exercises in the future."

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123311874