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pues hombre.... cuando no somos capaces entre todos ni siquiera de aprobar una constitucion europea, haya paises de la potencia de gran bretaña que pasan olimpicamente de la moneda unica, que paises como Francia son capaces de "vender" a un aliado como España por un puñado de euros y relaciones comerciales..... pues eso de considerar a la UE de unico estado.... pues sigo sin verlo.
Que en la OTAN hay otros paises que no son europeos, pues es cierto, pero la filosofia de un ejercito unico europeo va muy por la filosofia de lo que ahora es la OTAN asi que algo si que tendra que ver.
Que en la OTAN hay otros paises que no son europeos, pues es cierto, pero la filosofia de un ejercito unico europeo va muy por la filosofia de lo que ahora es la OTAN asi que algo si que tendra que ver.
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goleco, coincido contigo. Pero que haya fracasado el primer intento de constitución no implica que sea porque la gente no se quiera unir, pueden haber más motivos que no tengan que ver con eso. Ahora es normal que los paises miren por ellos primero y luego por la Unión. Pero cuando en el futuro haya aún más lazos de unión que ahora tanto por esa constitución que entre nueva como por nuevos ministerios imagino que la cosa ira cambiando e iremos pareciendonos cada vez más a un país consolidado, pero aún es pronto para verlo así. Y no creo que las negativas de Inglaterra distorsionen nada, como si se quieren ir.
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El Reino Unido no cumple las condiciones para estar en la moneda unica, pero por otra parte, yo que vivo en el Reino UNido, donde no existe desempleo en absoluto, prefiero que siga como esta (virgencita que me quede como estoy).
La llamada Constitucion europea no tenia nada de Constitucion, no cumple los requisitos como son la de establecer la soberania nacional.
No es mas que un tratado profundamente antidemocratico para que una casta de funcionarios/politicos decida absolutamente al margen de cualquier control. (los miembros del parlamento al precio de dos millones de pelas al mes, mas apartamento, vuelos gratis y otro medio millon para gastos).(Y muchos de ellos sin preparacion de ningun tipo).
La llamada Constitucion europea no tenia nada de Constitucion, no cumple los requisitos como son la de establecer la soberania nacional.
No es mas que un tratado profundamente antidemocratico para que una casta de funcionarios/politicos decida absolutamente al margen de cualquier control. (los miembros del parlamento al precio de dos millones de pelas al mes, mas apartamento, vuelos gratis y otro medio millon para gastos).(Y muchos de ellos sin preparacion de ningun tipo).
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Hola,
El submarino nuclear Hindu.
Located up the winding shipping channel in Visakhapatnam harbour is a secret, completely enclosed facility known only as the Shipbuilding Centre (SBC).
Inside this dry dock, nearly 50m below ground level, is a cylindrical black shape, which is as tall as a two-storey building and at 104 m in length, is longer than the Qutub Minar lying on its side.
Technicians working on it confess to a surge of national pride: India’s first nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine or SSBN is arguably its greatest engineering project.
For over a quarter of a century, the Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV), smaller than the USS Alabama from Crimson Tide, has been among the most highly-classified government programmes, if not the most delayed.
Officials still refuse to confirm the existence of the project or the sea-based ballistic missile. A decade after India came out of the nuclear closet in the sands of Pokhran, it has moved some tantalising steps closer to realising the third and possibly the toughest of the three legs of the triad enunciated in its nuclear doctrine: a sea-based deterrent or a secure underwater platform for launching nuclear weapons.
“Things are developing as per schedule,” Defence Minister A.K. Antony recently said of ATV. Early last month, Chief of the Naval Staff Admiral Sureesh Mehta was the first government official to not only confirm its existence but also lay down a timeframe: “It is a DRDO project and a technology demonstrator. It is somewhere near completion and will be in the water in two years.”
The admiral had reason to feel confident about the project. Just last month, an 80MW nuclear reactor, smaller than a bus, was pushed into the hull of the submarine and successfully integrated—a milestone in the project approved by the then prime minister Indira Gandhi in 1970.
By April 2009, the submarine will be launched and will begin sea trials before it is inducted into the navy. The goal is to field a fleet of three SSBNs by 2015, one in reserve and two on patrol, each carrying 12 nucleartipped ballistic missiles (Artist’s impression of India’s nuclear-propelled ballistic missile submarine) .
Possibly the last “gift” to India from the now-extinct Soviet Union, it was designed with Russian assistance in the late ’80s. Based on an entirely new design, the 6,000 tonne submarine (not the elderly Charlie class N-sub as thought earlier) will make India the world’s sixth nation to operate a “boomer”.
Part of the acceleration in the programme has to do with the rapid buildup of Chinese nuclear forces. China operates 10 nuclear submarines, and in the past year, has fielded as many as three new Jin-class SSBNs, each carrying 12 submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBM). “Given the growing military asymmetry with China, India’s need for a reliable nuclear deterrent that can survive a first strike has never been greater,” says strategic expert Brahma Chellaney.
Saludos.
El submarino nuclear Hindu.
Located up the winding shipping channel in Visakhapatnam harbour is a secret, completely enclosed facility known only as the Shipbuilding Centre (SBC).
Inside this dry dock, nearly 50m below ground level, is a cylindrical black shape, which is as tall as a two-storey building and at 104 m in length, is longer than the Qutub Minar lying on its side.
Technicians working on it confess to a surge of national pride: India’s first nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine or SSBN is arguably its greatest engineering project.
For over a quarter of a century, the Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV), smaller than the USS Alabama from Crimson Tide, has been among the most highly-classified government programmes, if not the most delayed.
Officials still refuse to confirm the existence of the project or the sea-based ballistic missile. A decade after India came out of the nuclear closet in the sands of Pokhran, it has moved some tantalising steps closer to realising the third and possibly the toughest of the three legs of the triad enunciated in its nuclear doctrine: a sea-based deterrent or a secure underwater platform for launching nuclear weapons.
“Things are developing as per schedule,” Defence Minister A.K. Antony recently said of ATV. Early last month, Chief of the Naval Staff Admiral Sureesh Mehta was the first government official to not only confirm its existence but also lay down a timeframe: “It is a DRDO project and a technology demonstrator. It is somewhere near completion and will be in the water in two years.”
The admiral had reason to feel confident about the project. Just last month, an 80MW nuclear reactor, smaller than a bus, was pushed into the hull of the submarine and successfully integrated—a milestone in the project approved by the then prime minister Indira Gandhi in 1970.
By April 2009, the submarine will be launched and will begin sea trials before it is inducted into the navy. The goal is to field a fleet of three SSBNs by 2015, one in reserve and two on patrol, each carrying 12 nucleartipped ballistic missiles (Artist’s impression of India’s nuclear-propelled ballistic missile submarine) .
Possibly the last “gift” to India from the now-extinct Soviet Union, it was designed with Russian assistance in the late ’80s. Based on an entirely new design, the 6,000 tonne submarine (not the elderly Charlie class N-sub as thought earlier) will make India the world’s sixth nation to operate a “boomer”.
Part of the acceleration in the programme has to do with the rapid buildup of Chinese nuclear forces. China operates 10 nuclear submarines, and in the past year, has fielded as many as three new Jin-class SSBNs, each carrying 12 submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBM). “Given the growing military asymmetry with China, India’s need for a reliable nuclear deterrent that can survive a first strike has never been greater,” says strategic expert Brahma Chellaney.
Saludos.
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