La Légion Étrangère - La Legión Extranjera (2006-2010)
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gracias
gracias,veremos si encuentro,pero por aki en ibiza esta la cosa complicada.por cierto,conoci a un exlegionario que por lo que me explicas estaba en los paracaidistas...conoceis el libro de tony sloane the naked soldier?,que opinais?.gracias.
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Re: gracias
ilral escribió:gracias,veremos si encuentro,pero por aki en ibiza esta la cosa complicada.por cierto,conoci a un exlegionario que por lo que me explicas estaba en los paracaidistas...conoceis el libro de tony sloane the naked soldier?,que opinais?.gracias.
y amistades o familia en madrid o barcelona tienes? ahi puede que haya una buena posibilidad el tema es con las editoriales.
no conozco ese libro, tienes algun link?
gracias
saludos
pour ce destin de chevalier, honneur et fidelite...LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA
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s.blanclegion010 escribió:Don Juan de Austria escribió:Alguien sabría decirme alguna página donde pueda escuchar el código de honor y "du budin"?, es para la pronunciacion. Gracias y saludos para todos.
LE BOUDIN
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=x1ygBI5iX ... re=related
Tiens, voilà du boudin,
Pour les Alsaciens, les Suisses et les Lorrains,
Pour les Belges, y en a plus,
Ce sont des tireurs au cul.
Au Tonkin, la Légion immortelle A Tuyen-Quang illustra notre drapeau, Héros de Camerone et frères modèles Dormez en paix dans vos tombeaux.
Nos anciens ont su mourir.
Pour la gloire de la Légion.
Nous saurons bien tous périr
Suivant la tradition.
Au cours de nos campagnes lointaines,
Affrontant la fièvre et le feu,
Oublions avec nos peines,
La mort qui nous guette si peu.
Nous, la Légion.
Nous sommes des dégourdis,
Nous sommes des lascars
Des types pas ordinaires.
Nous avons souvent notre cafard,
Nous sommes des légionnaires.
Muchas gracias! este ya lo tenía, se me fue la mano escribiendo, el que no encuentro es el del "CODE D´HONNEUR", tengo la letra pero me falta el audio para la pronunciacion, gracias de todas formas... SALUDOS
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entrenamiento basico
hola a todos les ando una reflexion de como seria, es sacado de otro foro:
There seems to be small confusions and misunderstood expectations regarding the contents and final goals of the French Foreign Legion Basic Training.
Due to the particular recruitment (people from all over the world, speaking different languages and having different cultures), the Legion obviously have a few fundamental problems to attend to before starting any complicated “commando” training.
The main goal of the basic training is therefore quite simple and logic:
To change anybody (any race speaking any language, from any culture) in to a basic soldier that is able to operate in normal Legion day to day life. In other words; giving everybody the same (very basic) language (French), teach everybody (and make sure that everybody understand) that there is one only way of doing things, THE LEGION WAY.
No “personal” opinions, no other language, no Americans pretending to be better than the Russians, no Russians pretending to be better than the Indians, just a bunch of completely equal kids that have very well understood that they finally know nothing.
Most of the ridiculous young “Rambos” on this board that wants to be elite soldiers haven’t got the slightest clue about how the day to day Legion life is, it is maybe unfortunate but they will have to learn.
They will have to learn how a platoon, a company, and a battalion are organized and how it works on a day to day basis, before learning how it operates in combat.
They will have to learn all the boring rules of community life (cleaning, behaviors, military regulations, uniforms, administrative processes, and simply to shut up). All this in a very basic French is finally not an easy task.
It looks soooooo cool on youtube when the Legion is “fighting” its way thru the jungle with the FAMAS in hand. However in basic training you horrible miserable little “Mongols” will first learn to carry it (without doing anything with it), strip and re-assemble it without destroying it. THEN!!! How to take a very simple aim at a target with a reasonable chance for hitting it, and that only is an art in itself. You will learn how to operate safely on a shooting range (in French). Considering that most of you have only seen a weapon on TV, it will be a big and difficult operation. You might be a small arms “specialist” in a previous life, but since you don’t understand anything in French you are a public danger. Anyway, until the whole group understands how to operate safely on the shooting range any individual “expertise” is completely pointless.
You will have to learn what to put (and NOT) put in your back pack during outdoor operations, how to sleep outside in good conditions, how to make a fire, how to leave nothing behind you, how to make food with nothing, how to cope with the kit you have and not with the kit you will like to have.
You will have to learn about general duties: Guard duties, intervention duties, Rules of self defense… Do you know what a ZMS is ???? well until you know, forget about the videos form youtube. Until you knows perfectly well the compete definition of a ZMS (outlines, limitations, and engagement rules) you are a useless soldier for guard duties. BUT !!! you think that you are ready for jungle training… My ass…
Most of you guys don’t even know how to clean a toilet!!! Some because it was always their mothers that did it, but some because they have never had and hardly seen a WC, but don’t worry you will all learn the secrets of this noble art.
Most of you guys don’t know how to iron a shirt, same reasons… mother did it or they where restricted to t-shirts. Some of you have never owned a tooth brush in your life.
However all these delights of life in community will be perfectly mastered?
After 4 months we will maybe have a young man that knows a bit French, knows the very basics of Legion community and military life. He knows how to hit a target 200m away in almost safe (for his surroundings) conditions; he knows how to launch a rifle grenade without looking like Rocky after a boxing match.
Basically we have a young Legionnaire that knows what will happen next in his day, and why it will happen within this little community.
Now the Legion can start the long and complicated job of making an elite soldier. [b][/b]
saludos.
There seems to be small confusions and misunderstood expectations regarding the contents and final goals of the French Foreign Legion Basic Training.
Due to the particular recruitment (people from all over the world, speaking different languages and having different cultures), the Legion obviously have a few fundamental problems to attend to before starting any complicated “commando” training.
The main goal of the basic training is therefore quite simple and logic:
To change anybody (any race speaking any language, from any culture) in to a basic soldier that is able to operate in normal Legion day to day life. In other words; giving everybody the same (very basic) language (French), teach everybody (and make sure that everybody understand) that there is one only way of doing things, THE LEGION WAY.
No “personal” opinions, no other language, no Americans pretending to be better than the Russians, no Russians pretending to be better than the Indians, just a bunch of completely equal kids that have very well understood that they finally know nothing.
Most of the ridiculous young “Rambos” on this board that wants to be elite soldiers haven’t got the slightest clue about how the day to day Legion life is, it is maybe unfortunate but they will have to learn.
They will have to learn how a platoon, a company, and a battalion are organized and how it works on a day to day basis, before learning how it operates in combat.
They will have to learn all the boring rules of community life (cleaning, behaviors, military regulations, uniforms, administrative processes, and simply to shut up). All this in a very basic French is finally not an easy task.
It looks soooooo cool on youtube when the Legion is “fighting” its way thru the jungle with the FAMAS in hand. However in basic training you horrible miserable little “Mongols” will first learn to carry it (without doing anything with it), strip and re-assemble it without destroying it. THEN!!! How to take a very simple aim at a target with a reasonable chance for hitting it, and that only is an art in itself. You will learn how to operate safely on a shooting range (in French). Considering that most of you have only seen a weapon on TV, it will be a big and difficult operation. You might be a small arms “specialist” in a previous life, but since you don’t understand anything in French you are a public danger. Anyway, until the whole group understands how to operate safely on the shooting range any individual “expertise” is completely pointless.
You will have to learn what to put (and NOT) put in your back pack during outdoor operations, how to sleep outside in good conditions, how to make a fire, how to leave nothing behind you, how to make food with nothing, how to cope with the kit you have and not with the kit you will like to have.
You will have to learn about general duties: Guard duties, intervention duties, Rules of self defense… Do you know what a ZMS is ???? well until you know, forget about the videos form youtube. Until you knows perfectly well the compete definition of a ZMS (outlines, limitations, and engagement rules) you are a useless soldier for guard duties. BUT !!! you think that you are ready for jungle training… My ass…
Most of you guys don’t even know how to clean a toilet!!! Some because it was always their mothers that did it, but some because they have never had and hardly seen a WC, but don’t worry you will all learn the secrets of this noble art.
Most of you guys don’t know how to iron a shirt, same reasons… mother did it or they where restricted to t-shirts. Some of you have never owned a tooth brush in your life.
However all these delights of life in community will be perfectly mastered?
After 4 months we will maybe have a young man that knows a bit French, knows the very basics of Legion community and military life. He knows how to hit a target 200m away in almost safe (for his surroundings) conditions; he knows how to launch a rifle grenade without looking like Rocky after a boxing match.
Basically we have a young Legionnaire that knows what will happen next in his day, and why it will happen within this little community.
Now the Legion can start the long and complicated job of making an elite soldier. [b][/b]
saludos.
futuro legionario
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Sr. VET, sabría decirme cuando se puede alcanzar la permanencia en la LEF? y que ventajas tiene?
Sabe si ha habido algún vasco en la LEF? Me imagino que si un presunto terrorista no está fichado y ha cometido un atentado puede buscar refugio tranquilamente en la LEF, no? Aunque debería permanecer siempre en el anonimato... corrijame si me equivoco, pero suavecito por favor que no llevo el protector bucal.
Gracias!
Sabe si ha habido algún vasco en la LEF? Me imagino que si un presunto terrorista no está fichado y ha cometido un atentado puede buscar refugio tranquilamente en la LEF, no? Aunque debería permanecer siempre en el anonimato... corrijame si me equivoco, pero suavecito por favor que no llevo el protector bucal.
Gracias!
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Don Juan de Austria escribió:Sr. VET, sabría decirme cuando se puede alcanzar la permanencia en la LEF? y que ventajas tiene?
Sabe si ha habido algún vasco en la LEF? Me imagino que si un presunto terrorista no está fichado y ha cometido un atentado puede buscar refugio tranquilamente en la LEF, no? Aunque debería permanecer siempre en el anonimato... corrijame si me equivoco, pero suavecito por favor que no llevo el protector bucal.
Gracias!
No hay 'estatuto de permanente en la LEF. Despues del contrato inicial de 5 años, se firman contratos sucesivos (o no) de duracion variable.
Vascos si ha habido y hay. Pero te diré un secreto no todos los vascos son etarras
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Me lo dice o me lo cuenta... , como se nota cuando no puede o no le interesa contestar, pero lo comprendo y lo respeto, gracias de todas formas, además le puedo asegurar que es como una partida de "mus", puede pensar que está con un vasco que es de p.... madre y ser un ...... y viceversa, estar con un fantasma que se las da de ...... y ser un desgraciado, aunque si lo fuera es más desgraciado todavía
Bueno entonces deduzco lo que deducia de un principio, y de la manera que usted me ha contestado me da ha entender que mejor me contesto yo solo para no comprometer a nadie, pero que sepa que he captado su respuesta, gracias.
Por cuanto se puede renovar como máximo?
Bueno entonces deduzco lo que deducia de un principio, y de la manera que usted me ha contestado me da ha entender que mejor me contesto yo solo para no comprometer a nadie, pero que sepa que he captado su respuesta, gracias.
Por cuanto se puede renovar como máximo?
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Con su permiso voy a probar suerte otra vez:
Cual es actualmente el LEGIONARIO con más rango? (es decir que empezó como LEGIONARIO), y los oficiales que no són LEGIONARIOS me imagino que seran de academia del ejército francés, que tal són?
Respetan las tradiciones de la LEF? o són como en La Legión Española?
Y por último, aunque esto si que me suena que está contestado , hasta que rango puede llegar un LEGIONNAIRE actualmente? ...SUBOFICIAL ??
Cual es actualmente el LEGIONARIO con más rango? (es decir que empezó como LEGIONARIO), y los oficiales que no són LEGIONARIOS me imagino que seran de academia del ejército francés, que tal són?
Respetan las tradiciones de la LEF? o són como en La Legión Española?
Y por último, aunque esto si que me suena que está contestado , hasta que rango puede llegar un LEGIONNAIRE actualmente? ...SUBOFICIAL ??
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Don Juan de Austria"]Con su permiso voy a probar suerte otra vez:
Cual es actualmente el LEGIONARIO con más rango? (es decir que empezó como LEGIONARIO),
teniente coronel
y los oficiales que no són LEGIONARIOS me imagino que seran de academia del ejército francés, que tal són?
Respetan las tradiciones de la LEF? o són como en La Legión Española?
la mayoria vienen voluntarios. En cuanto a calidad hay de todo como en todas partes.
Y por último, aunque esto si que me suena que está contestado , hasta que rango puede llegar un LEGIONNAIRE actualmente? ...SUBOFICIAL
eso también esta en la pagina del reclutamiento..............y en ESPAÑOL
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