Hola QAP, te cuento lo que sé:
"Los Arpía III confirmados son 9"
Correcto, pero en el papel, volando hay 8, uno de ellos tuvo la fortuna de pararse en un campo minado. Vaya suerte.
Y el proceso de reparación del FAC 4135 se ha taradado taaanto tiempo que no parece que lo fueran a terminar nunca, por eso son 8 unidades III actualmente, no más no menos.
- Los Angeles no son Arpía (precisamente porque son angeles ...osea CSAR).
Correcto. En
google images uno busca "Arpia III" y aparecen imagenes de los CSAR (?), hay una confusión muy grande respecto a eso. Y es que porque tienen alas embrionarias les convierten en Arpias. Hay una asociación mental equivocada y muy generalizada y es la de
Ala Embrionaria=Arpia y no es así.
"Deben haber 2 Arpía II"
En efecto, así es. Si puedes conseguir fotos de los Arpia II con los señores de unffmm súbelas aquí para que las analicemos, pues yo no tengo
y escasamente saco el tiempo para postear aquí.
y un tercer UH-60L - el FAC 4135- del último lote adquirido en proceso de reparación (cayó en un campo minado en el año 2003). En teoría estos tres helicópteros serán llevados al estadar Arpía III para completar la flotilla de 12.
Aquí es donde tenemos una diferencia en las cifras estimado a no ser que no te haya entendido bien, pero ese helo del que hablas NO ES ADICONAL a los otros 9 Arpias sino que HACE PARTE del grupo de los 9, y como en este momento está siendo reparado (
no se ve que le trabajen mucho la verdad), pues en efecto son 8 volando a día de hoy abril 19 del 2009.
PD: Del Arpía IV....ver para creer, pero en lo personal ya no le doy mucha credibilidad al proyecto...(si es que alguna vez existió).
Te cuento que los israelís declinaron la compra de Apaches adicionales para seguir adelante con este proyecto, eso ya dice mucho no? Te dejo la nota, y en google encuentras muchos otros enlaces que confirman la noticia. La decisión la tomaron hace más de un año, o sea que prontamente estarán mostrando sus primeros resultados:
ISRAEL MODIFICARA SUS HELICOPTEROS UH-60 BLACK HAWK.
27-07-2007 06:09
El ejército israelí se dispone a modificar sus helicópteros de propósitos generales UH-60 Black Hawk. Un programa para artillar los Black Hawk ha sido aprobado luego de haber suspendido un programa de mejoras y la compra de nuevos helicópteros de ataque Boeing Ah-64A/D Apache el año pasado. Los trabajos comenzarán en septiembre en la cual se encuentra implicada la empresa Ciclone subsidiaria de Elbit, con un helicóptero de prototipo programado para experimentar las pruebas de vuelo a partir de Abril-Mayo de 2008. El UH-60 Black Hawk modificado llevará sistemas de comando y control, equipo de guerra electrónica y misiles aire-tierra Spike-ER de Rafael y será capaz de atacar blancos con un alcance de hasta 8 kilómetros.
Y te dejo este otro articulo que no tiene desperdicio, te subrayé los motivos que llevaron a Israel a declinar los Apaches y jugarsela por los Black Hawk, muy interesante:
AH-60L / S-70 Battle Hawk
The new version of the Black Hawk helicopters, led by Sikorsky is also comprised of other leading technology companies such as General Electric, Rockwell Collins, GIAT and Hamilton Standard. Sikorsky and Elbit Systems intend to offer Black Hawk helicopter upgrades to other users with an operational requirement of adapting their fleet to attack missions.
Elbit Systems Ltd. signed a teaming agreement with Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation of Stratford, CT, for the upgrading and conversion of Black Hawk helicopters to armed reconnaissance and attack applications. Under the agreement Elbit Systems will provide the Helmet Mounted Display, Targeting Sensor, Stores Management Computers and other components of the upgraded configuration and will be responsible for the weapons integration.
The Elbit Systems' MIDASH (Modular Integrated Display and Sight Helmet) will provide the Battle Hawk with the flight and weapons symbology for day and night operations. The Toplite II Targeting Sensor has FLIR (Forward-Looking Infrared), day time TV and a Laser Designator and Rangefinder for search and weapon designation.
Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation is a world leader in helicopter design and manufacturing. More than 2400 Black Hawk helicopters supplied by Sikorsky are flown by 25 operators around the world in a range of military applications. Elbit Systems has extensive experience in upgrading helicopters for customers worldwide, such as the Sikorsky CH-53 for the Israeli Air Force and the PUMA helicopter for the Romanian Air Force, as well as in developing advanced avionics for various platforms, such as the Boeing Osprey V-22, the Israeli Air Force Panther naval helicopter, and other numerous types of helicopters in the U.S., Israel and worldwide.
The Sikorsky S-70 Battle Hawk helicopter -- with a turreted 20mm cannon -- brings true battlefield versatility. It is based on the UH-60L aircraft in service today with the U.S. Army, and incorporates numerous improvements to the UH-60A.
Among the most significant improvements is the change from T700-GE-700 engines with 1,560 shp each to T700-GE-701C engines with 1,890 shp each and an uprated 3,400 shp gearbox to handle them. Other improvements also include better electromagnetic and corrosion protection and a 9,000 lb rated cargo hook. With these improvements, the Battlehawk helicopter is able to meet the AIR-87 mission requirements, along with an additional 1,000 to 1,500 lb payload capability for fuel, weapons reload, external load or other payloads for mission flexibility.
It has Blackhawk survivability features that have been battlefield-proven in Grenada, Panama, Somalia, Haiti, Turkey, Bosnia, Colombia and Desert Storm. The Battlehawk helicopter has dash speed and agility capabilities that few dedicated attack helicopters can match and none can exceed.
The major Battlehawk weapons feature is the 20mm GIAT THL 20 turreted gun. Its location under the cabin provides a rugged, simple integration. The gun can be slaved to the Elbit Systems Helmet Mounted Display (HMD) cueing, or to the Elbit Systems Toplite II Targeting Sensor Line of Sight. Ammunition is stored in the cabin and fed to the gun through one 90-degree bend, versus up to seven such bends with nose-mounted gun turrets, providing unparalleled accessibility, feed and ease of reload.
Past weapons integration on the Blackhawk using the External Stores/Weapons System (ESWS) have included Hellfire missiles, 2.75-inch Rockets, Stinger Missiles and various gun pods including 7.65 mm, 20mm and 30mm cannon. One current operational configuration has dual 30mm chain guns, dual 7.65mm machine guns and Hellfire missiles and rockets, more than doubling the firepower of existing attack helicopters. The ESWS also can accommodate up to four 230 gallon external fuel pods.
The Elbit Systems MIDASH (Modular Integrated Display and Sight Helmet) provides highly accurate helmet tracking, flight and weapons symbology for day and night operations. It features state-of-the-art image intensifiers for night pilotage. It is lighter and more ergonomically designed with a larger field of view (FOV) than existing HMD systems. The Elbit Systems Toplite II Targeting Sensor System has FLIR, Daytime TV and laser Designator and Rangefinder for search and weapon designation.
The Battlehawk helicopter has a full "glass" cockpit with Rockwell Collins active matrix color LCD Multifunction Displays and CDUs. They result in a significantly smaller instrument panel with 27 degrees visibility over the nose, 12 degrees more than most attack pilot cockpits. The narrower panel also improves lateral and downward visibility using chin windows nonexistent on current attack helicopters. The HMDs and HOCAS (Hands on Collective and Stick) features of the Battlehawk helicopter enable either pilot or copilot to perform piloting, search, comm or weapons tasks while maintaining "eyes up, hands on."
The Battlehawk helicopter's 400 cubic foot cabin, along with it's performance capabilities, enable it to carry additional munition reloads, thus reducing the need to return to a forward rearming point and dramatically increasing the firepower that it can deliver, a real force multiplier. With its 9,000 lb cargo hook, it can carry the munitions for several aircraft, essentially bringing along it's own re-arming facility, another real force multiplier. The cabin also provides significant mission flexibility such as search and rescue or team insertion that dedicated attack helicopters cannot perform.
Como podrás haberte dado cuenta la decisión israelí era de esperarse, pues por el tipo de guerra no convencional que llevan a cabo los hebreos hoy día necesitan justamente una plataforma más flexible que un Apache, un Cobra, un Tiger o cualquier otro helo de ataque dedicado.
Un saludo.
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